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Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

I can test my new PHP system right now :op I think you need to disable UAP on your computer. Go here: http://www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/pages.php?subcats/security/whatisuap
(Now I hope that PHP thing works now... because I spent 3 days trying to work out how to direct link to my articles!)
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--- Original message follows --- "Neal Duitz" wrote in message

Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

Try disabling UAP and see if it fixes the issue, Click Start > All Programs

Accessories > Run > type MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) scroll down > select Disable UAP > click Launch > OK. Restart the system and try importing the

..pst -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message

Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

Thanks Andre,
That seemed to do the trick. I followed your instructinons and solved the problems with the two files. One quick follow up. Should I now re enable UAP or will that cause the problem to reappear?
Thanks Again,
Neal "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Try disabling UAP and see if it fixes the issue, Click Start > All Programs Accessories > Run > type MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) scroll down > select Disable UAP > click Launch > OK. Restart the system and try importing the .pst -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

It would be best to re-enable it to see if it would work. :) Especially since Microsoft is expecting all users to operate all the time under UAP. :) -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message

Thanks Andre,
That seemed to do the trick. I followed your instructinons and solved the problems with the two files. One quick follow up. Should I now re enable UAP or will that cause the problem to reappear?
Thanks Again,
Neal "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Try disabling UAP and see if it fixes the issue, Click Start > All Programs Accessories > Run > type MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) scroll down > select Disable UAP > click Launch > OK. Restart the system and try importing the .pst -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

Could you try giving help instead of plugging your Vista base? No problem with plugging your website though, but offering the tip, plus the link usually generates more hits. ;-) -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

I can test my new PHP system right now :op I think you need to disable UAP on your computer. Go here: http://www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/pages.php?subcats/security/whatisuap
(Now I hope that PHP thing works now... because I spent 3 days trying to work out how to direct link to my articles!)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Neal Duitz" wrote in message Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

Well, the thing is is that instead of simply copying and pasting the content from my site, it's easier to give the link. Why else did you think I made VistaBase for? For newsgrouping, that's it :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Could you try giving help instead of plugging your Vista base? No problem with plugging your website though, but offering the tip, plus the link usually generates more hits. ;-) -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I can test my new PHP system right now :op I think you need to disable UAP on your computer. Go here: http://www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/pages.php?subcats/security/whatisuap
(Now I hope that PHP thing works now... because I spent 3 days trying to work out how to direct link to my articles!)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Neal Duitz" wrote in message Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

Yeh, the more feedback you can give about UAP, the better MSFT will end up making it... because at the moment, I don't know of a single person who keeps it on all the time ;o) Hehe.
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

It would be best to re-enable it to see if it would work. :) Especially since Microsoft is expecting all users to operate all the time under UAP. :) -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message Thanks Andre,
That seemed to do the trick. I followed your instructinons and solved the problems with the two files. One quick follow up. Should I now re enable UAP or will that cause the problem to reappear?
Thanks Again,
Neal "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Try disabling UAP and see if it fixes the issue, Click Start > All Programs Accessories > Run > type MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) scroll down > select Disable UAP > click Launch > OK. Restart the system and try importing the .pst -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Neal Duitz" wrote in message Good Day Friends,
I received my beta kit last night (March 10th) and after a failed upgrade install decided to go for broke do a clean install, which seemed to work much better. At any rate, with the exception of the lack of drivers for my HP Photosmart 7660 printer and my Philips Acoustic Edge Sound Card (PSC 706) all is going pretty well. However, I seem to have run into a permissions problem. I have installed Office 2003 and MS Money 2006 and was attempted to open my existing (Pre Vista) PST and Money files but each time I am denied access. The system telle me that I may not have permission. I am the only administrator on my system and have not changed any of the default settings. Can you advise?
Thanks in Advance,
Neal Duitz

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:39:32 -0000, Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:

Yeh, the more feedback you can give about UAP, the better MSFT will end up making it... because at the moment, I don't know of a single person who keeps it on all the time ;o) Hehe.

Zack, can this affect things like program install, as a lot of progs I'm trying to install end up creating directories and that is about all. -- Tekguru (Daron Brewood) MS-MVP/Mobile Devices
Webmaster: UKs largest Pocket PC Site http://www.4WinMobile.com

Yeh, UAP can restrict programs installing unless you are the administrator. Also, if you have UAP enabled and you want to create a new folder in %programfiles% for a new program group, this might be restricted also. So yeh, UAP in general tightens things down so that the user cannot make system wide changes which would then affect other users.
Check out this article, explains it better - http://www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase/welcome.php?subcats/security/whatisuap
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--- Original message follows --- "Tekguru (Daron Brewood)" wrote in message

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 11:39:32 -0000, Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:
Yeh, the more feedback you can give about UAP, the better MSFT will end up making it... because at the moment, I don't know of a single person who keeps it on all the time ;o) Hehe.
Zack, can this affect things like program install, as a lot of progs I'm trying to install end up creating directories and that is about all. -- Tekguru (Daron Brewood) MS-MVP/Mobile Devices
Webmaster: UKs largest Pocket PC Site http://www.4WinMobile.com

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:36:00 -0000, Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:

Yeh, UAP can restrict programs installing unless you are the administrator. Also, if you have UAP enabled and you want to create a new folder in %programfiles% for a new program group, this might be restricted also. So yeh, UAP in general tightens things down so that the user cannot make system wide changes which would then affect other users.

Cheers Zack, will read up later. Did not change the problem I had which was getting Directory Opus 8 to install though. In the end I ran the installer and copied the files over from the MCE2005 part of the system and that at least had got around it. So to me it looks like installers need to be updated to ensure they are fully Vista aware. -- Tekguru (Daron Brewood) MS-MVP/Mobile Devices
Webmaster: UKs largest Pocket PC Site http://www.4WinMobile.com

I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message

I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

User Account Protection/Control: http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/security/whatisuap
Turn off the annoying prompt: http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/security/disableuap
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

I certainly don't want to boot twice every time I use my PC. There should be a way to disable this feature for people that know what they are doing. I don't need to be "protected" . I understand the need for UAC, and even making it the default setting, but it shouldn't be forced down peoples throats. This one feature alone would make me hesitant to switch from XP.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

All I can say is, it is currently a work in progress and Microsoft realizes that and changes are being made, hopefully subsequent builds will be much better. In the mean time, if it bothers you: click Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message

I certainly don't want to boot twice every time I use my PC. There should be a way to disable this feature for people that know what they are doing. I don't need to be "protected" . I understand the need for UAC, and even making it the default setting, but it shouldn't be forced down peoples throats. This one feature alone would make me hesitant to switch from XP.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

I am a slow learner. I just figured out you don't have to go through this process every time you boot. It's a one time process. Also figured out their is a check box in Control Panel/User Accounts/Change Security Settings to turn off/on UAC.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

All I can say is, it is currently a work in progress and Microsoft realizes that and changes are being made, hopefully subsequent builds will be much better. In the mean time, if it bothers you: click Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I certainly don't want to boot twice every time I use my PC. There should be a way to disable this feature for people that know what they are doing. I don't need to be "protected" . I understand the need for UAC, and even making it the default setting, but it shouldn't be forced down peoples throats. This one feature alone would make me hesitant to switch from XP.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

You stated . . . So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator . .. . This isn't true because basic Windows tasks, such as copying files to a CD and defragging a hard drive, require Admin rights. It's not helpful to inform users that a process requires higher permissions, but won't elevate the permissions beyond those already granted to the user. On the other hand, it would be helpful to inform users that a task requires higher permissions than they already have and automatically display the "Run as . . . " dialog box.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:

You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

Hi Mike,
Mike Lombrozo wrote:

You stated . . . So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator . . . This isn't true because basic Windows tasks, such as copying files to a CD and defragging a hard drive, require Admin rights.

I wasn't in the thread, but I'll comment on this part.
1. There's no excuse for anyone to run with Admin rights 2. Copying files to a CD does NOT require Admin rights 3. Defragging a drive is an Admin task, the user should not be allowed
Some clarification:
I run a big network and none of us have Admin rights, not even the developers. Running with Admin rights is totally stupid, and it's no wonder people end up with Viruses and SpyWare when they do so, especially idiots who use IE to go on the internet with Admin rights. I run Admin tasks from command prompts if I need to manage something on the network.
However, Microsoft Windows is badly designed, and some things like ActiveX won't work without Admin rights, so WindowsUpdate or MSDN downloads might not work - this is silly, because it means Microsoft are pushing people into having to run with Admin rights! As I understand it, they've decided Admin rights will be the default in Vista!?! No doubt it's to pacify home users so they can easily install software without having to switch to an Administrative account.
Security strategy is easy, Linux know how to do it perfectly, but Windows has been deliberately flawed by Microsoft for the sake of home-user convenience.
EXCEPT, it's not convenient, because now they need constant UAC pop-ups and a resource hogging Anti-Spyware monitor.
Vista is the most botched security I've ever seen. The worst of both worlds, and most hackers (and people like the RIAA) will simply bypass it.
There's a special newsgroup for Vista Security, probably best to use it for security stuff in future.
-- Gerry Hickman (London UK)

Actually all of the task you mentioned do no require Administrator priviledges, defragging already don't automatically by the system. -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Mike Lombrozo" <Mike Lombrozo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

You stated . . . So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator . . . This isn't true because basic Windows tasks, such as copying files to a CD and defragging a hard drive, require Admin rights. It's not helpful to inform users that a process requires higher permissions, but won't elevate the permissions beyond those already granted to the user. On the other hand, it would be helpful to inform users that a task requires higher permissions than they already have and automatically display the "Run as . . . " dialog box.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

The enforcement of these messages is absolutely daft. These kind of things should be disabled by default but with a capability for turning on clearly easy to do. You HAVE to run a lot of stuff with admin rights they just plain do not work so M$ need to understand that and allow for it.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:

Actually all of the task you mentioned do no require Administrator priviledges, defragging already don't automatically by the system. -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Mike Lombrozo" <Mike Lombrozo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message You stated . . . So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator . . . This isn't true because basic Windows tasks, such as copying files to a CD and defragging a hard drive, require Admin rights. It's not helpful to inform users that a process requires higher permissions, but won't elevate the permissions beyond those already granted to the user. On the other hand, it would be helpful to inform users that a task requires higher permissions than they already have and automatically display the "Run as . . . " dialog box.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
You are are experiencing the new User Account Protection scheme. Security is a strong point in Windows Vista, a new security feature called User Access Control (UAC) enables a lock on administrative features throughout the OS, making it more difficult for users to mess up areas of the operating system that are vulnerable to attack or user accidents. Whether it's Device Manager, Windows, System/System 32 folders or changing account settings. Limited account users (now called Standard User) can benefit from this very much, by getting more flexibility when it comes to doing common task such as setting date and time or changing your account password. For computers in public places I consider this beneficial and it provides a better peace of mind for Administrators and even confidence for inexperienced users when using the operating system, the major advantage really is it brings awareness to what the user is doing and certain persons will at least take the time to read the consequences of their actions before they click "Allow". So in end, there is no excuse for running as Administrator. So far, the status from the public on UAC is, it seems like a highly annoying feature and trust me, it is at times. It's the first thing I disable after I log into Vista for the first time. For me, I can manage the consequences from turning it off, but I still see it as a benefit for the novice, grandma or non computer savvy uncle who occasionally use their computer and want to stay out of trouble every time they use it.

So, it's really a necessary annoyance, if you do know what you are doing, you can disable UAC by clicking Start > All Programs > Run > type in MSCONFIG > Tools (tab) > scroll down select Disable UAC > click Launch, restart your system for the changes to take effect. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Charlie" wrote in message I am new to Vista. Can someone explain why an administrator has to keep granting permission for every little thing. Is there a way around it?

"Gordon" wrote in message

The enforcement of these messages is absolutely daft. These kind of things should be disabled by default but with a capability for turning on clearly easy to do. You HAVE to run a lot of stuff with admin rights they just plain do not work so M$ need to understand that and allow for it.

I found them annoying so turned off the messages but now I get a security warning. lol control control control!!!

I am trying to create a folder where I have the only permissions. I am an administrator. I create the folder and it inherits all the permissions from the parent. It gives the Users group read and execute permission, which I do not want. I went in and unchecked the "inheritable permissions" box. The Users group then goes away from the advanced screen, but when I go back to the main properties page, they are still there. Then when I add any files or folders to this new folder, they inherit the "read and execute" Users group from the parent folder where I just removed the Users group. The only way I have figured out to get around this is to add a new Users group to the folder with deny permissions, which is supposed to override the allow permissions. Is there an easier way to do this? I should be able to create a folder and delete out any account I want to and have it propagate to the subfolders and subfiles.
Thanks -- http://www.nateandrews.com

I am trying to create a folder where I have the only permissions. I am an administrator. I create the folder and it inherits all the permissions from the parent. It gives the Users group read and execute permission, which I do not want. I went in and unchecked the "inheritable permissions" box. The Users group then goes away from the advanced screen, but when I go back to the main properties page, they are still there. Then when I add any files or folders to this new folder, they inherit the "read and execute" Users group from the parent folder where I just removed the Users group. The only way I have figured out to get around this is to add a new Users group to the folder with deny permissions, which is supposed to override the allow permissions. Is there an easier way to do this? I should be able to create a folder and delete out any account I want to and have it propagate to the subfolders and subfiles.
Thanks -- http://www.nateandrews.com

Tony, Thanks for the rapid response, apparently I wasn't very clear on my problem. That "irc" issue was just an example, with the real issue being, why can't I change my permissions, and why don't I have full rights?

I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

This is by default and "by design" - although it's read-only, it's only read-only by the operating system. Basically, it's just as normal - nothing to worry about, just a simple tick box which means very little :oP
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message

I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

Umm, Zack, please do some real trials before you post an answer.
It is NOT as normal. I CANNOT save my file except with another file-name.
I cannot change permissions - I don't have the authority to do so.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
As others have posted, this is way over the top. MS should be able to program an OS that can tell the difference between local commands and ones coming over the bloody internet.
Grrrrrr.

-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

This is by default and "by design" - although it's read-only, it's only read-only by the operating system. Basically, it's just as normal - nothing to worry about, just a simple tick box which means very little :oP
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

I too am fed up with what I would call "over the top" security. I'm in a dual-boot scenario, and have admin rights on both XP and Vista. Whenever I try to view a simple Word doc (on XP), I get "permission" errors. Is there any way to "disable" permisions altogether in Vista?
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

Umm, Zack, please do some real trials before you post an answer.
It is NOT as normal. I CANNOT save my file except with another file-name.
I cannot change permissions - I don't have the authority to do so.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
As others have posted, this is way over the top. MS should be able to program an OS that can tell the difference between local commands and ones coming over the bloody internet.
Grrrrrr.

-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Zack Whittaker" wrote in message This is by default and "by design" - although it's read-only, it's only read-only by the operating system. Basically, it's just as normal - nothing to worry about, just a simple tick box which means very little :oP
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--: Original message follows :-- "Ian M. Walker" wrote in message I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

Ian I haven't gotten far enough to not have permission on documents yet BUT. I downloaded trend pccillin beta for Vista x64 and it did not properly install so it never actually starts. I tried add remove and it couldn't remove the program. I went to reinstall and it kept trying to uninstall so I decided to just remove the program files. Guess what - I dont have permission and I need to talk to the system administrator (ME). Does anyone know how to remove a freakin file on this thing since I dont have permission.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

Anyone know how to remove a program file/folder. Seem that I who built the damn machine and installed the program do not have permission.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:

I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

I ended up tsaking ownership of the whole root but even then I have problems. The fact is that VISTA itself seems to b e the only thing that can do things. Even with full ownership of all files it still tells me Permissions are denied on Folders that just do not need to be 'special' inj any way. It really is a joke the level of security they built into this and they have gone totally OTT - I think almost everyone on here is bitching about permissions and the anal way in which M$ have implemented them.
M$ are you listening to all this?
"Rusty" wrote:

Anyone know how to remove a program file/folder. Seem that I who built the damn machine and installed the program do not have permission.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

I ended up tsaking ownership of the whole root but even then I have problems. The fact is that VISTA itself seems to b e the only thing that can do things. Even with full ownership of all files it still tells me Permissions are denied on Folders that just do not need to be 'special' inj any way. It really is a joke the level of security they built into this and they have gone totally OTT - I think almost everyone on here is bitching about permissions and the anal way in which M$ have implemented them.
M$ are you listening to all this?
"Rusty" wrote:

Anyone know how to remove a program file/folder. Seem that I who built the damn machine and installed the program do not have permission.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

I ended up tsaking ownership of the whole root but even then I have problems. The fact is that VISTA itself seems to b e the only thing that can do things. Even with full ownership of all files it still tells me Permissions are denied on Folders that just do not need to be 'special' inj any way. It really is a joke the level of security they built into this and they have gone totally OTT - I think almost everyone on here is bitching about permissions and the anal way in which M$ have implemented them.
M$ are you listening to all this?
"Rusty" wrote:

Anyone know how to remove a program file/folder. Seem that I who built the damn machine and installed the program do not have permission.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote:
I'm getting rather ticked off with the file system in general but this post is regarding permissions.
I've already had to take "ownership" of various folders on my data partitions but now I'm finding that when I create a document say in CorelDraw, when I next open it to edit and then go to save I'm told it is "read only" and I'm asked to give a different file name! This is also happening with Word 2007. WHY? I've tried to remove the "read only" attribute from these folders and I'm told I don't currently have permission to do so! Sheesh. I'm the bloody owner of this machine, I'm using an Admin account and I've taken ownership. Who then DOES have permission? Microsoft?
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~

Hello,
It is helpful to remember that in Windows Vista, even though you are running as an administrator account, every program you run is running under a *standard user* account, and does not have administrator-level permission. The only way a program can get administrator-level permission is if the application automatically prompts you for permission, or if you explicitly give that application permission.
So ... what are the actual ramifications of this when dealing with the filesystem? Let's take a look at the default access permissions for most folders in windows:
- A user has read access to just about everything - A user generally cannot write to anything outside of his profile directory - Any user can create a folder almost anywhere in the filesystem - The owner of a folder has full control over it and its contents - Administrators have almost full control over just about everything
So... this means, that even though you are an running in an admin account, all your explorer windows and programs you run (having normal user credentials) will be able to read almost any file, but will not be able to write anything unless it is in your profile directory, or a directory that you created or took ownership of.
So, here's the major problem:
- Folders and files from a different windows installation probably won't allow you to write to them, even if they're YOUR files you created from a different version of windows.
- You will need to modify their permissions to give either Everyone full access or your user account in Vista full access. Taking ownership of them is NOT RECOMMENDED as you may have trouble accessing them from the other windows installation.
- Managing your files and folders are going to be a real pain ... which brings me to
HOW DO I MANAGE MY FILES AND FOLDERS if explorer run as a standard user ?!?!
Here's how:
- Click Start - Type: explorer.exe - When it shows up under Applications, right-click it and click Run As Administrator
You now have an "administrator" explorer, kind of like a root shell in that other operating system, that will allow you to change permissions and access files as admin, just like in the good 'ol days.
Hope this helps! :)
- JB

Jimmy,
yes it helps to explain an awful lot. But surely there should be a way to run as an admin such that everything you run does indeed have full admin rights - make it a setting somewhere.
What this does is ensure that I have to right-click then click run as admin every time I want to make sure somethign works they way I hope it should.
Things like this need to be optional things that security conscious admins can enable or at least be able to put back to running it the way it should. I'm and admin user therefore eveything I do I want to do as an admin user..this over-complicates it in my view.

Fair enough :)
This is actually an optional setting ... this feature is called User Account Control. You can enable/disable it here:
Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Accounts -> Change Security Settings
You will have to restart your computer after you make this change. This change affects your entire computer, not just your account.
- JB

Jimmy - I don't see 'User Accounts and Family Safety' just User Accounts - I went in via the Admin tools to find the local policies and edit them....
"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

Fair enough :)
This is actually an optional setting ... this feature is called User Account Control. You can enable/disable it here:
Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Accounts -> Change Security Settings
You will have to restart your computer after you make this change. This change affects your entire computer, not just your account.
- JB

Jimmy - I don't see 'User Accounts and Family Safety' just User Accounts - I went in via the Admin tools to find the local policies and edit them....
"Jimmy Brush" wrote:

Fair enough :)
This is actually an optional setting ... this feature is called User Account Control. You can enable/disable it here:
Control Panel -> User Accounts and Family Safety -> User Accounts -> Change Security Settings
You will have to restart your computer after you make this change. This change affects your entire computer, not just your account.
- JB

Apparently there are a LOT of us, who are having "issues" with this particular feature, for me mIrc fails to write to its logs, because they can't be "opened". I have tried to change the permissions for me, but, again, it won't allow that either. Does anyone have any clue how to change the permissions?

Hi, could someone show me how to allow me (only user) permission to view a folder (ie documents & settings, application data, etc.) I have unchecked the box in Control Panel User Accounts, there is now a red shield on taskbar warning of this.
But I still cannot even view certain folders. Attempts to import addresses from Outlook Express to Outlook is unsuccessful also, 0 files are imported (the Outlook newsgroup gave me the process).
I cannot even locate the folder that 'may' contain the .csv file that I need. I used a memory stick that contains this .csv file but that G: drive source didn't produce any files even though the .csv file size is 8.57kb. I selected C: drive, end result was again 0 files imported.
On one of the warning Permissions windows, it states I should see the Security Tab to fix this. That only pertains to that path to that folder. I would have to make changes to every folder I want to open/view. And I honestly couldn't figure out what to change. Where my name was shown, my login I assumed, it showed Full Control.
Could someone show me where I can disable this security? I couldn't find any further boxes to uncheck in the Control Panel in Windows Security Center. Or should I be logging in as Administrator and how do I do that? The only login icon I have available on boot is Mine.
Thanks for Any Help, Ideas or web page I could read to disable this security. I read all the reasons why I should keep it. Now I want the choice to disable it if possible.
katy

Hi Katy, Not much help here..sorry :-( I'm having the same issue and am waiting for someone to answer me as well. I do know that in Vista there is nothing in "Doc and settings" it all in the "Users" folder off of the root C. If you have found the answer by now I sure would love to here from ya :-)
Regards Phil
"katy" wrote:

Hi, could someone show me how to allow me (only user) permission to view a folder (ie documents & settings, application data, etc.) I have unchecked the box in Control Panel User Accounts, there is now a red shield on taskbar warning of this.
But I still cannot even view certain folders. Attempts to import addresses from Outlook Express to Outlook is unsuccessful also, 0 files are imported (the Outlook newsgroup gave me the process).
I cannot even locate the folder that 'may' contain the .csv file that I need. I used a memory stick that contains this .csv file but that G: drive source didn't produce any files even though the .csv file size is 8.57kb. I selected C: drive, end result was again 0 files imported.
On one of the warning Permissions windows, it states I should see the Security Tab to fix this. That only pertains to that path to that folder. I would have to make changes to every folder I want to open/view. And I honestly couldn't figure out what to change. Where my name was shown, my login I assumed, it showed Full Control.
Could someone show me where I can disable this security? I couldn't find any further boxes to uncheck in the Control Panel in Windows Security Center. Or should I be logging in as Administrator and how do I do that? The only login icon I have available on boot is Mine.
Thanks for Any Help, Ideas or web page I could read to disable this security. I read all the reasons why I should keep it. Now I want the choice to disable it if possible.
katy